Ancestors of Tim Farr and The Descendants of Stephen Farr


Alan de CHARLTON Knight [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3, 4 was born 5, 6 about 1318/1319. He died 7, 8 on 3 May 1349. Alan married Margery Fitz AER 9, 10, 11, 12, 13.

ALAN DE CHERLETON, JKnt., In right of his wife, of Aston Eyre (in Morville), Harcott (in Stottesden), and Withyford, Shropshire, son and heir apparent, born about 1318/9. He married before 1338 MARGERY FITZ AER, daughter and heiress of Thomas Fitz Aer (or Fitz Ayer), Esq. She was born 4 April 1314. They had two sons, John and Thomas. She died before 1349. SIR ALAN DE CHERLETON died 3 May 1349.

Margery Fitz AER [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 was born 6, 7 on 4 Apr 1314. She died 8, 9 in BY 1349. Margery married Alan de CHARLTON Knight 10, 11, 12, 13.

She was descended in the male line and in the eighth generation from Alcher, Domesday Lord of Aston Aer, Harcott, Middleton, Great Withyford, and Albrighton, in Shropshire.

They had the following children.

  M i Thomas de CHARLTON Esquire was born about 1345. He died on 6 Oct 1387.

Sir Alan de CHARLTON Knight [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3, 4 died 5, 6 on 3 Dec 1360. Alan married 7, 8 Elena la ZOUCHE 9, 10, 11, 12 about 1317.

ELLEN LA ZOUCHE, eldest daughter and co-heiress, born about 1288 (aged 26 in 1314). She married (I”) before 1314 (as his 2nd wife) NICHOLAS DE SAINT MAUR, Knt., of Poulton, Wiltshire, Newton-by-the-Sea, Northumberland, etc., and, in right of his 1~t wife, of Eaton Maisey, Wiltshire, Maisey Hampton, Gloucestersbite, and Weston, Herefordshire, Knight of Shire for Gloucestershire. They had three sons, Alan, Nicholas, Knt. 2nd Lord Saint Maur], and Thomas. Her share of her father's estates included the manors of Black Torrington, King's Nympton, and North Molton, Devon, and a half share of the manor of Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire. He attended the Earl of Lancaster on his mission to France in 1294. He served in Gascony in 1296, and was summoned for service against the Scots in 1298. In 1313 he was pardoned for his participation in the death of Peter de Gavaston, Earl of Cornwall. He was summoned to Parliament from 29 July 1314 to 16 Oct. 1315, by writs directed Nicholson de Sancto Mauro, whereby he is held to have become Lord Saint Maur. SIR NICHOLAS DE SAINT MAUR, itt Lord Saint Maur died 8 Nov. 1316. She married (2nd) before 26 Nov. 1318 ALAN DE CHARLETON, Knt., of Apley (in Wellington), Haughton in Shifnal) and Wappenshall, Shropsbire, younger son of Robert de Cherleton, of Cherleton (in Wrockwardine). Shropshire. He was born about 1278 (aged 70 in 1348). They had three sons, Alan, John, and Thomas, and one daughter, Ellen (wife of Grimbald Pauncefot, Knt.). In 1324 he was pardoned for the death of John de Castello, a rebel, who broke prison. His wife, Ellen, died about 1345. SIR ALAN DE CHARLETON died 3 Dec. 1360.

Elena la ZOUCHE [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3, 4 was born 5, 6 about 1288. Elena married 7, 8 Sir Alan de CHARLTON Knight 9, 10, 11, 12 about 1317.

They had the following children.

  M i Alan de CHARLTON Knight was born about 1318/1319. He died on 3 May 1349.

Alan la ZOUCHE Baron [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3, 4 was born 5, 6 on 9 Oct 1267 in North Molton, Devonshire, England, United Kingdom. He died 7, 8 before 25 Mar 1314. Alan married Eleanor de SEGRAVE 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14.

ALAN LA ZOUCHE, Knt., of Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, Swavesey and Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire, Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, Brackley, Northamptonshire, and Treve (in Tiflington), and Nutbourne (in Pulborough), Sussex, Constable of Rockingham Castle, son and heir, born at North Molton, Devon 9 Oct. 1267. He married ELEANOR DE SEGRAVE, daughter of Nicholas de Segrave, Knt., of Segrave, Leicestersbire, Lord Segrave, by Maud, daughter of Geoffrey de Lucy. Her maritagium evidently included the manor of Great Dalby, Leicestershire. They had three daughters, Ellen, Maud, and Elizabeth (nun at firewood). He was in Gascony with the King in 1288, when he was one of the hostages given by King Edward I to Alfonso of Aragón for the fulfilment of certain agreements. He was in Scotland on the King's service in June 1291, served in Gascony, 1295-96, and was summoned for service in Flanders in 1297. He fought in the vanguard at the Battle of Falkirk in Scotland 22 July 1298. He was summoned to Parliament from 6 Feb. 1298/9 to 26 Nov. 1313, by writs directed Alann la Zousche, whereby he is held to have become Lord Zouche or La Zouche. He was going to the Court of Rome in 1299. He was present at the siege of Caeilaverock inJuly 1300. He signed the Barons' letter to Pope Boniface in 1301 as Alanus la Zuche D'n's de Asheby. He was summoned in 1308 to King Edward II's Coronation. He made a pilgrimage to Santiago in Spain in 1308. He was going overseas with Aymer de Valence, Earl of Pembroke, in 1313. SIR ALAN LA ZOUCHE, Lord Zouche, died shortly before 25 March 1313/4, and was buried at Brackley, Northamptonsbite. [Note: For supporting evidence that Alan la Zouche's wife, Eleanor, was the daughter of Nicholas de Segrave, see M.D. Legge Anglo-Norman Litters & Petitions (Anglo-Norman Text Soc. 3) (1941): 78-79, for letter dated 1399/1406 from Alan and Eleanor's descendant, Thomas la Warre, 5th Lord Warre, to Thomas Arundel, Archbishop of Canterbury, which mentions “mon tesentierment amb cousin,” Henry le Despenser, Bishop of Norwich. Bishop Despenser was a descendant of Eleanor de Segrave's niece, Ellen (de Segrave) Ferrets].

Eleanor de SEGRAVE [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 was born about 1270 in Segrave, Leicester, England, United Kingdom. She died in 1314. Eleanor married Alan la ZOUCHE Baron 7, 8, 9, 10.

They had the following children.

  F i Elena la ZOUCHE was born about 1288.
  F ii Maud la ZOUCHE was born in 1292. She died in 1349.

Sir Roger la ZOUCHE Baron [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3 was born 4 about 1240. He died 5, 6, 7 before 15 Oct 1285. Roger married 8, 9 Ela LONGESPEE 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 before 1267.

ELA LONGESPEE, elder daughter and co-heiress. She married before 1267 ROGER LA ZOUCHE, Knt., of Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestersbire, and Brackley, Northamptonshite, and, in right of his wife, of Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshite, son and heir of Alan La Zouche, Knt., of North Molton, Devon, Swavesey, and Fulbourn, Cambtldgesbite, Constable of the Tower of London, by Ellen, 3rd daughter and co-heiress of Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester, hereditary Constable of Scotland. He was born about 1240-42 (aged 28 or 30 in 1270). They had one son, Alan, Knt. [Lord Zouche]. In the course of a lawsuit with John de Warenne, Earl of Surrey, Roger and his father were violently assaulted by Warenne before the Justices in Westminster Hall in 1270. He was summoned for service against the Welsh in 1277, 1282, and 1283. His wife, Ela, died before 19 July 1276. SIR ROGER LA ZOUCHE died shortly before 15 Oct. 1285.

Ela LONGESPEE [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 died 6 in 1276. Ela married 7, 8 Sir Roger la ZOUCHE Baron 9, 10, 11 before 1267.

A granddaughter of William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury (a natural son of King Henry II of England), by his wife Ela Devereux (1188-1261), a descendant of the Capetian kings of France, Dukes of Burgundy, and Dukes of Brittany.

They had the following children.

  M i Alan la ZOUCHE Baron was born on 9 Oct 1267. He died before 25 Mar 1314.

Lord Nicholas de SEGRAVE Knight [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3 died 4 in 1295. Nicholas married Maud 5.

Maud 1. Maud married Lord Nicholas de SEGRAVE Knight 2, 3, 4.

They had the following children.

  F i Eleanor de SEGRAVE was born about 1270. She died in 1314.

Alan la ZOUCHE Baron [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3 was born in 1203 in Ashby-de-la-Zouch, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom. He died 4 on 10 Aug 1270 in England, United Kingdom. Alan married 5 Elena de QUINCY 6, 7, 8 before 1242 in Winchester, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom.

Constable of the Tower of London, a descendant in the male line of the Counts of Porhoet in Brittany. REF Theroff. Justiciar of Ireland. Baron Zouche of Ashby

Baron Zouche of Ashby ARMS:..Gules (red), ten bezants, four, three, two and one.
NOTE:..In abeyance since 1314; descended from Alan La Zusche, Earl of Brittany, temp. William I; Sir Alan La Zouche, of Ashby-de-la-Zouche, co. Leicester, was appointed, 49 Henry III, Constable of the Tower of London, and d. 1269, leaving two sons - 1. Roger, whose son, Alan La Zouche, was summoned to Parliament 1297, and left three daus., among whom his barony fell into abeyance; 2. Eudo, ancestor of Baron Zouche, of Harringworth.

Elena de QUINCY [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3 was born in 1222 in Winchester, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom. She died 4, 5 before 20 Aug 1296 in England, United Kingdom. Elena married 6 Alan la ZOUCHE Baron 7, 8, 9 before 1242 in Winchester, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom.

They had the following children.

  M i Sir Roger la ZOUCHE Baron was born about 1240. He died before 15 Oct 1285.

Stephen LONGESPEE [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 was born about 1216 in of Salisbury, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom. He died 7 in by 1274/5 in of Sutton, Northampton, England, United Kingdom. Stephen married 8, 9 Emeline de RIDELISFORD 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 in BET 8 FEB 1243 AND 14 DEC 1244.

STEPHEN LONGESPEE, Knt., of King's Sutton, Northamptonsbire, Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, Stokes, Oxfordsbire, and Wanborough, Wiltshire, Seneschal of Gascony, Justiciar of Ireland, Constable of Bourg-sur-Mer (in Gironde), Corfe, and Sherborne Castles, and, in right of his wife, of Corrofin, Co. Mayo and Kilkea and Tirsteldermot, Co. Connaught, 2nd son. He witnessed a charter for Baldwin III, Count of Guisnes, in 1240. In 1241 he acknowledged he owed Richard Basset a debt of 20 marks. He married between 8 Feb. 1242/3 and 16 Dec. 1244 EMELINE DE RIDELISFORD, widow of Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster (died 1242), and daughter of Walter de Ridelisford, of Bray, Admekin (or Headford), Coro~n, and Trisdedermot (or Castledermot), Ireland, by his wife, Annor. They had two daughters, Ela and Eme]ine (wife of Maurice Fitz Maurice, Knt.). In 1243/6 he witnessed a charter of his cousin, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, to Shaftesbury Abbey. In 1247 he was pardoned a debt of £33 and a half mark by Licoria wife of David of Oxford the Jew. He took the cross in 1250. In 1255 he went to Gascony with Edward the king's son. In 1258 he was granted wardship of the land and heirs of his late brother-in-law, Walter Fitz Robert, by Edward the king's son for 3,000 marks. At some undetermined date, he was a benefactor of St. Giles Priory at Flamstead, Hertfordsbire. SIR STEPHEN LONGESPEE died testate shortly before 25 June 1260, and was buried at Lacock Priory. His widow, Emeline, died between 18 May 1275 and 19 July 1276.

Emeline de RIDELISFORD 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 was born about 1220. She died 6, 7 in 1276. Emeline married 8, 9 Stephen LONGESPEE 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 in BET 8 FEB 1243 AND 14 DEC 1244.

They had the following children.

  F i Ela LONGESPEE died in 1276.

Roger la ZOUCHE [Parents] was born 1 about 1175. He died 2 before 14 May 1238. Roger married Margaret BISET.

Margaret BISET was born 1 about 1179. She died 2 after 28 Jan 1232. Margaret married Roger la ZOUCHE.

They had the following children.

  M i Alan la ZOUCHE Baron was born in 1203. He died on 10 Aug 1270.

Roger de QUINCY 2nd Earl of Winchester [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3 was born 4 in 1190 in of Winchester, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom. He died 5, 6 on 25 Apr 1264 in England, United Kingdom. Roger married 7 Helen Mcdonal of GALLOWAY 8, 9, 10 about 1217.

Other marriages:
FERRERS, Eleanor De

ROGERL DE QUINCY, Earl of Winchester, died without male issue 25 April 1264, and was probably buried at Brackley, Leicestershire, his Earldom reverting to the Crown.

He married first HELEN OF GALLOWAY, second but first surviving daughter and coheir of Alan, Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland, who died in 1234. Helen died after 21 Nov. 1245 and was buried at Brackley. He married second, before 5 June 1250, Maud de Bohun, widow of Anselm Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, who died in Dec. 1245, and daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, by Maud, daughter of Raoul (Ralph) de Lusignan, Count of Eu. The younger Maud was not very old when she died without issue in Grosby, Leicestershire, 20 Oct. 1252 and was buried at Brackley. He married third, without license, before 5 Dec. 1252, Eleanor (or Alianole) de Ferrers, widow of William de Vaux (who had died without issue shortly before 14 Sept. 1252), and seventh daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, by his first wife, Sybil (of whom Eleanor was coheir). His widow was assigned dower 21 Sept. 1264, and married third, before 8 Sept. 1267, as his second wife, Roger de Leyburn, who died about Oct. 1271. She died shortly before 26 Oct. 1274, and was buried at Leeds Priory.

He was apparently on Crusade at Damietta in the Holy Land when his father died, and inherited his father's lands 16 Feb 1220/1. Upon his mother's death in 1234/5 he was recognized as the Earl of Winchester. He traveled with his mother's knights to Brittany in the spring and summer of 1230.

By rights inherited through his first wife he became hereditary Constable of Scotland in 1234. He needed the help of the Scottish king to quash a rebellion against his tyrannical rule of his lands there in 1247. He had witnessed an agreement between Alexander of Scotland and Henry III on 25 Sept. 1237, served in Gascony in 1242, against the Welsh in 1258, 1260, 1261 and 1263, and was an arbitrator between the King of Scotland and Henry III in 1257/8. He took up arms for Henry Ill in 1260, 1261 and 1263.

Children, by first wife, the first three listed by Cokayne:
i.    Margaret, d. 1280/1; m. c. 1238 William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby; she resigned her hereditary office as Constable of Scotland in favor of her brother-in-law, the 6th Earl of Buchan, in 1270.
ii.   Elizabeth (or Isabel), m. Alexander Comyn, 6th Earl of Buchnn and Constable of Scotland.
iii.  Helen (or Ellen, Elene [Elena in Weis, AR7, 53:29]), d. 1296; m. Sir Alan Ia Zouche, of Ashby-de-la-Zouche, who d. 10 August 1270.
iv.  Isabel, b. c. 1224 [Norr, 100]; was to m. 1241 Hugh Neville (at this time the names Isabel and Elizabeth were essentially the same, and this could be a reference to Elizabeth, above).

Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester, constable of Scotland, was a benefactor to the building of Henry III's new Gothic Westminster Abbey, begun in 1245.

Helen Mcdonal of GALLOWAY [Parents] 1, 2, 3 was born 4 about 1200. She died 5 after 21 Nov 1245 in Brackley, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, United Kingdom. Helen married 6 Roger de QUINCY 2nd Earl of Winchester 7, 8, 9 about 1217.

ELLEN OF WALES. She married about 22 August 1222 JOHN OF SCOTLAND (otherwise JOHN SCOT), Knt., 8th Earl of Chester, 10th Earl of Huntingdon, 3rd but only surviving son and heir of David, 9th Earl of Huntingdon (brother of William the Lion, King of Scotland), by Maud, eldest daughter of Hugh, 6th Earl of Chester, Vicomte of Avranches. He was born about 1207. Ellen's maritagium included the manors of Bidford, Warwickshire and Suckley, Worcestershire (which property had formerly formed part of her mother, Joan's maritagium), as well as the manor of Wellington, Shropshire. They had no issue. He was senior co-heir in 1232 to his uncle, Ranulph, Earl of Chester. He carried the sword Curtana at the Coronation of Queen Eleanor of Provence, wife of King Henry III, in 1236. He took the Cross about 5 June 1236. SIR JOHN OF SCOTLAND, Earl of Chester and Huntingdon, died at Darnal Abbey, Cheshire shortly before 6 June 1237, and was buried at St. Werburgh's, Chester. She married (2nd) before 5 Dec. 1237

They had the following children.

  F i Elena de QUINCY was born in 1222. She died before 20 Aug 1296.
  F ii Margaret De QUINCY was born about 1218. She died about 12 Mar 1281.

Saher de QUINCY IV 1st Earl of Winchester, Magna Carta Surety [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3 was born 4 in 1155 in of Winchester, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom. He died 5, 6, 7 on 3 Nov 1219 in Damietta, Egypt. Saher married 8 Margaret de BEAUMONT 9, 10 in BET 1168 AND 1173.

SAHER DE QUENCY IV, 1st Earl of Winchester, died at Damietta in the Holy Land, 3 Nov. 1219, and was buried in Acre.

He married MARGARETM DE BEAUMONT, younger sister and coheir of Robert Fitz Pernel, 4th Earl of Leicester, and second daughter of Robert, 3rd Earl of Leicester., she died probably on 12 Jan. 1234/5, having been recognized as the Countess of Winchester while a widow Active with Kings Richard and John in Normandy, 1197-1199, he witnessed the pact between John and the Count of Boulogne at Chateau Gaillard, 18 August 1199. On 30 Oct. 1200 he was appointed to conduct William the Lion, King of Scotland, to meet King John; he was present the next 22 Nov. when William the Lion did homage to John. He was captured by the French in 1203 when he and his cousin, Robert Fitz Walter, surrendered the castle of Vandreuil without a fight, but he was in England by 5 May 1204.

When his wife's only brother, Robert Fitz Pernel, 4th Earl of Leicester, died without issue, he was given custody, on 30 March 1205, of the Honors of Leicester and Grand­mesnil; by 10 Feb. 1206/7 he was recognized as the Earl of Winchester. He served in Scotland in 1209, and in Ireland in 1210. He was active in the work of the Exchequer, 1211-1213, and Justice, and served as Ambassador to Emperor Otto IV in 1212. He witnessed the charter by which King John surrendered the Crown to the Pope on 15 May 1213, and in June 1215 was one of the twenty-five Barons chosen to enforce obedience to the Magna Charta, having been with the confederate Barons against the King at Stamford.

With the other barons he was exconununicated by the Pope, and early in 1216 he went with Robert Fitz Walter to invite Prince Louis to England; the result was that his lands were seized and later granted to William Marshal, son of the Earl of Pembroke. He saved the town of St. Albans from being sacked by Prince Louis' army in Dec. 1216, was captured by the forces of King Henry Ill at Lincoln, 20 May 1217, but was restored his lands on 29 Sept. 1217 when he returned to his allegiance.

He was present at Worcester in March 12 17/8, when peace was made between Prince Llywelyn ab lorworth of Wales and Henry Ill of England. In 1219 he joined the Crusaders before Damietta.

Children, mentioned by Cokayne or Weis:
i.    son d. young.
ii.   Roger, d. 25 April 1264; m. (1) Helen of Galloway, m. (2) Maud de Bohun, m. (3) c. 1252 Eleanor de Ferrers.
iii.  Lorette, m. Sir William de Valognes or Valonyes of Panmure, co. Foifar, Chamberlain of Scotland, who d. Kelso 1219 [Weis, MCS5, 111A:2].
iv.  Orabella, m. Sir Richard” de Harcourt of Stanton Harcourt.
v.   Robert [mother unknown (TG, 5:221-225)], m. HawiseM of Chester.
vi.  Hawise, m. after 11 Feb. 1222/3 Hugh de Vere, Earl of Oxford.

Margaret de BEAUMONT [scrapbook] 1, 2 was born in 1155 in of Hampshire, England, United Kingdom. She died 3, 4, 5 on 12 Jan 1235/1236. Margaret married 6 Saher de QUINCY IV 1st Earl of Winchester, Magna Carta Surety 7, 8, 9 in BET 1168 AND 1173.

Daughter of the third Earl of Leicester, and descended fron Capetian kings of France.

They had the following children.

  M i Roger de QUINCY 2nd Earl of Winchester was born in 1190. He died on 25 Apr 1264.
  F ii Hawise De QUINCY died about 3 Feb 1263.
  F iii Mary De QUINCY.

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